The following transcript has been edited for length and clarity.
We have to prepare for those contingencies and figure out what is it that we’re going to do to head them off.” It’s not that we should be intimidated and scared…. “And he wants us to know that, of course. “Every time you think, ’No, he wouldn’t, would he?’ Well, yes, he would,” Hill said. It’s important not to have any illusions - but equally important not to lose hope. Putin is increasingly operating emotionally and likely to use all the weapons at his disposal, including nuclear ones.
There’s lots of danger ahead, she warned. “Every country in the world should be paying close attention to this.”įiona Hill testifying in an impeachment hearing of Donald Trump. “Ukraine has become the front line in a struggle, not just between democracies and autocracies but in a struggle for maintaining a rules-based system in which the things that countries want are not taken by force,” Hill said. Those old historical patterns include Western businesses who fail to see how they help build a tyrant’s war chest, admirers enamored of an autocrat’s “strength” and politicians’ tendency to point fingers inward for political gain instead of working together for their nation’s security.īut at the same time, Hill says it’s not too late to turn Putin back, and it’s a job not just for the Ukrainians or for NATO - it’s a job that ordinary Westerners and companies can assist in important ways once they grasp what’s at stake. “Sadly, we are treading back through old historical patterns that we said that we would never permit to happen again,” Hill told me. We are already, she said, in the middle of a third World War, whether we’ve fully grasped it or not. Hill spent many years studying history, and in our conversation, she repeatedly traced how long arcs and trends of European history are converging on Ukraine right now.
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